We had our book club meeting last night at super korean mommy’s dad’s restaurant in S. SF. Her coworker friend who’ll I’ll call Yalie, is now engaged to her Taiwanese fiance! After I guess, 4-5 years of dating, long distance and short distance they are getting married.
It was funny since we barely talked about F. Scott Fitzgerald’s book, This Side of Paradise” and that was the purpose of the book club. Anyhow, I think dimples is ready, and I think I am too, to ease off on the book club. I’m going to give birth in about 4 months so I will have no time except if we squeezed in one more book or something and I’m less inclined to do it.
What was funny was the book lent itself to alot of odd topics. It’s about a well to do young man and his journey and self discovery, having been stripped of his wealth, but because he comes from a upper class family, it looks at his prep school period, his time at an ivy league, his snobby mother and various friends and girls he’s fallen in love with. One girl breaks off their engagement to marry a wealthier man since his prospects dried up due to poor investments and his mother leaving everything to the church.
Taiwanese coworker of dimples, went to Exeter and said how his education was top notch. We spoke of the set up preppies at the schools. Super korean mommy and I, being Californians, had no concept of prep schools really except the local catholic private school. I was near a few in Oakland and Piedmont but really my idea of prep school was just really LL Bean commercial spreads, Cape Cod, East Coast-ish things, Sperry topsiders, rugby shirts and khaki’s. Blond hair and long bangs. Pastels and pinks on boys.
How awesome is that.
We digressed and moved onto mother-in-laws and all three of us had alot to say to super korean mommy’s coworker who is white and marrying into a Taiwanese immigrant’s family. Her hubby is the only son and her eyes got big as saucers as we regaled her with our stories of mother-in-law battles. Me and super korean mommy had the worst experiences where both of us actually had our mother-in-laws leave our houses in a huff when visiting. Super korean mommy had direct blowouts with her in law. I never did have an actual confrontation or shouting match myself but my Mister has suffered his diret blowouts instead. I’d rather he fight with his mom, who can forgive him then me fight with my mother-in-law who may or may not be able to forgive me. Anyhow, it’s been over ten years for super korean mommy and so they now have a somewhat comfortable relationship, her and her in-laws.
As she is about to give birth to a 2nd daughter, she was quite philosophical in her perspective now. She could now see the desire to be close to one’s children, at any age and how the marrying and rejection or shift of the relationship of your own child could be so traumatic. She now wishes she was less bullheaded about going toe to toe with her mother in law. I’m not so sure it was possible to avoid. Some things are on a crash course collision and you have to just let it happen. I’m all for diplomatic conversations, and being really mindful of what you say and your actions, as they do affect all relationships and the future interactions one has but sometimes it’s just inevitable. My mother-in-law leaving, was inevitable. Nothing could have prevented it. Not even if I was a Harvard medical school graduate (which my mother-in-law probably wanted), who’s parents were doctors and graduated from the same schools in Korea as she did, (which again she would have wanted), whose grandparents were doctors, and who had a butt load of money. Not even then do I think my mother-in-law would have adjusted well to her son getting married and “leaving” her. Not even if I was all that and Martha Stewart. I am not sure, maybe being Martha would have helped ease the transition and I could outdo her doilies. Kidding. Hand made cards in calligraphy print, perhaps. Ok, kidding again.
Well, suffice to say, Yalie’s eyes got bigger and bigger. She really did want to know what to talk about before they got married. Which I think is a good idea in any case, regardless of cultural baggage. You should talk to your future husband about finances, expectations of parents, living with parents or really talk about plans for their care when they become really dependent.
For her I suggested she talk to her fiance about whether the parents expected to live with them at all, at any part of their lives. That’s a big one. I said you have alot of options before that. If they have their own means, they can live near you, by you, just not with you. My Mister always thought 30 minutes was a good distance. Close but not too close. I say more like 10 minutes but it depends on the parent. My mother-in-law would have dropped by alot and other’s may not so much. All depends. What I realize now is that if my in-laws moved here, they would have left everything that occupies their life and makes it rich and full in retirement. The local symphony, the friends, the gym and club membership, the swim center and yoga classes. They would have come here and may have found those things but would also have been bored and then the focus and intensity of boredom would have focuses on us. My in-laws would have expected dinner with us probably every evening. While they would have been closer and could spend time with my bunny and gotten closer to the grandchild, they would also have lost out on a rich part of their life. So it’s hard. We want to have them close to foster a closer relationship with their grandchild, our bunny, be able to help them because they are not halfway across the country. But the distance is still comforting. It’s distance so there’s no abrasive interactions. It’s been an adjustment period and truly I do know all any parent wants is to spend time with their children. I understand that. What gets in the way is the expectation and control of trying to manipulate or manuever an adult child and their spouse, who clearly may not appreciate such actions or expectations.
My mother-in-law now has a focus on a granddaughter, something she was very happy to hear about having. I’m happy for this time now and I’m also a firm believer that the relationship between my in-laws and I will continue to evolve. It’s just the way it is with relationships. It’s not nearly bad enough where we don’t speak or can’t salvage any sense of kinship. It needs time to develop and truly, at some point, my mother-in-law has to be stripped of her expectations, which has now happened. I have to grow with the understanding of as a parent, what it means to symbolically, if not healthily, “lose” a child in the process of their growing up and marrying.
I may truly only understand once my little bunny marries and brings home that no good girl that I think is not good enough.
I hope not but you don’t know until you get there. You truly don’t know until you get there, how you’ll react. Hopefully my friends will keep me in check and be the voice of reason. And hopefully I can combat my feelings and reason with myself and have understanding and patience for a daughter-in-law who wants her husband to herself and doesn’t want to be told what to do, or have her kitchen rearranged to look like mine. ha!